Juan Manuel Grijalvo - IRFCA - Indian Railways Fan Club Association

My favorite pic of the trip and also the rarest catch: GZB WAP7 #30233 with WR's King Mumbai Rajdhani
and GZB WAP7 #30220 with ER's King Sealdah Rajdhani have a race towards TKJ.
The trains are heading towards there respective destinations. The timings of these trains is same i.e. 4:30PM.
I am going to catch another parallel run again but this time of Bhopal and Lucknow Shatabdi on 16th.

atigupta at YouTube

wap5holic at Flickr

This is unfair... - No hay derecho..., de atigupta & indianrailways

Akshay Iyer

http://reflectionsofpassions.blogspot.com/

daredevilakshay at Flickr

Akshay Marathe

akshaywcam1 at Facebook

akshaywcam1 at Flickr

akshaywcam1 at Fotopic

mrvcholdings at Google Sites

mrvcmania.wordpress.com

akshaywcam1 at Vimeo

wcam2p at YouTube

Akshay Patil

akshaypatilwcam at Flickr

akshpatilgmailcom at YouTube

Alok Patel

alokpatel at Flickr

Amarnadh Varma

ama672 at Flickr

TheNani01 at YouTube

Amit C. Patel

amitshatabdi at Flickr

acpatel5 at YouTube

Amit Kumar Singh

amitmlp at YouTube

Amit Walia

Anamitra Ghatak

Anamitra at Flickr

anamitraghatak at YouTube

Anas Khan

kawanzeir at YouTube

Anil Tharian

anilt at IRFCA

Anindya Roy

Andy Roy at Flickr

andy25biotech at YouTube

Anirudh Jolly

wap7anirudh at Flickr

wap7anirudh at YouTube

Ankit Bharaj - WAP-7 #30231

Ankit Bharaj at Flickr

ankitwap7 at YouTube

El original de un video que ha sido "republicado" en YouTube docenas de veces...
Yo mismo lo hice, hasta que di con el autor... Adrenalina en vena.

Cheating Death

Ankit Ray Ghatak

ANKIT_16147R - ankitrg09 at Flickr

ankit717arg at YouTube

Ankur Paliwal

paliwalankur at YouTube

Anubhab Dey

arkadeybullet at YouTube

Anupam Raut

akkithesupersaiyan at YouTube

Anurag Acharya

Anurag Wats

Anurag Loco Lover at Flickr

Apoorva Karlekar

Aproop Joshi

aproopjoshi at YouTube

Apurva Bahadur

IR pictures, trip reports, sound files

apub at IRFCA

Aravind Girish Nair

supersaiyan3704 at YouTube

Arindam

axisarindam at YouTube

Arindam Ganguli

Arjun WAP-4

Arjun WAP-4 at Flickr

Arkya Chatterjee

The Rail Addict Lad of Kolkata

Arkchat921 at YouTube

Arpan Mitra

arpanwcam2p at Flickr

arpanwcam3 at YouTube

Arun Rajagopal

http://arunrajagopal.com/

Arzan Kotval - Snake in the Grass...

arzankotval2002 at Flickr

arzan1980 at YouTube

El primer vídeo de trenes de la India que encontré :

SPEEDY SHOW BY THE AUGUST KRANTI RAJDHANI EXPRESS

Soy Aulendil, el que pregunta por el ancho de vía...

Cuando estoy bajoneado, me va muy bien mirar clips como éste...

CAPTURE OF THRILLING PARALLEL ACTION WITH COLOURFUL EXPRESS TRAIN & CROSSING OF 3 TRAINS TOO !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Gp_FsHDkE

A TKD WAG5 Hauled Conraj

Un video interesante:

Vemos una locomotora diesel que tira cuesta arriba de un tren de pasajeros.
No es una máquina pequeña, pero los usuarios de Renfe en el siglo pasado sabemos lo que dan de sí...
Contamos los coches: uno, dos, tres, cuatro, cinco, la cámara gira a la derecha...
Pasan muy rápido... Nuestra perplejidad va en aumento...
Seguimos contando hasta dieciocho (repito, dieciocho) coches...
Y entonces aparece la solución del misterio en forma de los ocho mil cuatrocientos caballos
de las dos locomotoras WCG2 que suministran las necesarias vitaminas al convoy.

Véalo clicando aquí...

De nada. Por cierto, también hay una foto de Raj Bhavsar más adelante.

Ashwin Joseph

Ashwin WAP5 at Flickr

Ashwin Kumar

avinashi07 at YouTube

Ashwin Rao

Aswath Narayan

atherayas at YouTube

Avinash Venkitachalam

avinuvenkis at YouTube

Bappaditya Pal

palbappaditya at Flickr

Bharath Moro

Shuunya - Nothing and Everything and All Things In Between

http://purisubzi.tumblr.com/

Bharat Narayan

Bharat at IRFCA

Bhaveen Patel

Bhaveen Patel at Vimeo

bhavin2584 at YouTube

Bijitendra 'Bizzy' Mishra

bizzymishra at Flickr

http://bkmishra.fotopic.net/

Bizzy Mishra at IRFCA

Bijitendra at YouTube

http://bizzymishra.wordpress.com

Binai Kochunni Sankar - Jumbo WDM-2 #17847 - Itarsi

Perfil en Blogger

http://platform7.blogspot.com/

Railfanning in Kerala

Bhushan Kale

Bipin Pareek

Mr1991bp at YouTube

Bhuvanesh Hadkar

http://www.flickr.com/people/vectorprime/

http://www.youtube.com/user/bhunu9867938341

Chaitanya Gokhale

Chaitanya Mishra

chaitanya353535 at YouTube

Indianrailways obsession at Flickr

Chandan Jagade

chandan_jagade at Flickr

Debatra Mazumdar

debatra at Flickr

debatrarailfan at YouTube

Indian Railways Wiki

railsandlife.blogspot.com

Deepak Verma

annaaalok at Youtube

Dennis Jacob

seba81376 at YouTube

Dhairya Upadhyaya

dhairyaupadhyaya at Flickr

dhairya12 at YouTube

Dr. Dhawal Mavani

DR.DHAWAL at Flickr

dhawal4987 at YouTube

Dhawal Poladia

thenameisDP at Flickr

Dhawal Poladia at Vimeo

Dheeraj Rao - KJM WDG3As 13243+13285+13056 wait at SKLR

as people make the most of the 30-minute halt to have lunch. — in Sakleshpur, Karnataka.

Dheeraj Rao

Dhee's World at Blogspot

dhee_1212 at Flickr

dheerajrao at trainspo.com

dheerajrao at YouTube

Dheeraj Sanghi

Railway Budget 2011

Dinesh Hukmani

Page at Facebook

dihuk28 at Flickr

Dinesh Hukmani at Vimeo

eldoev

eldoev at YouTube

Bendición ritual de la locomotora 20062 de Indian Railways en Krishnarajapuram.

Es una WDP-4, conocida afectuosamente entre los aficionados como "The Beast", la Bestia.

Ayutha pooja - Ceremonia en honor de Lord Vishvakarma

Farhaan Shaikh

farhaans at YouTube

Gaurav Virdi

gauravvirdi at Flickr

Giridhar Patnaik

Giriraj Damani

mstrmnd25 at YouTube

Gourav Modi

garry_at_its_best at Flickr

Hari Kishore Malladi

Harsh Dinesh

Harsh Vardhan

http://www.irfca.org/~shankie/wpglory/wpglory.htm

Heinz Bühler

http://www.heinz-buehler.ch/

Indian Rail Fan - bhartiyarailfan

indian rail fan (irfca) at Flickr

indianrailway

indianrailway group at Flickr

indianrailways

indianrailways at YouTube

This is unfair... - No hay derecho..., de atigupta & indianrailways

http://trainsofindia.wordpress.com/

Indian Railways First Class

indianrailwaysfirstclass at Flickr

Jason Antony

Jattin Bhavsar

Scenes from a wonderful day and night spent at Ankai Killa near Manmad

Jay Balakrishna

Jay at IRFCA

Videos en alta definición, con un sonido que te...

jbalakri at YouTube

Jayasankar Madhavadas - WDG-4 #12048 y #12086

http://www.jayasankarmadhavadas.blogspot.com/

jayasankar_madhavadas at Flickr

jmadhavadas at Picasa

Jimmy Jose

jimmystrains at Flickr

Jimmy at IRFCA

Joan Segura

Segura-Traction

Tren al Rajasthan - YouTube

John Lacey

JohnLacey at IRFCA

kalebhushan

kalebhushan1021 at YouTube

Kanwardeep Singh

kanwar620 at YouTube

Karan Desai

The Blue Railway - thebluerailfan at Flickr

Karthik Abbilash

karthikabbilash at YouTube

Karthik Gopalan

karthikgopalan at YouTube

Karthik M. V.

karthik at IRFCA

Kaushik Dharwadkar

from AWB

Khalid Kagzi

khld1976 at YouTube

Kharad Zarir Variyava

Krishna Kumar

Exploring Indian Union - http://www.exploringmotherindia.blogspot.com/

Krupa Ratnam

ratnam_krupa at Flickr

Kshitij Chavan

kshitijchavan at Flickr

Kshitij Halbe

numbiskshits at YouTube

Jyothish Kd

jyothishk at blogspot.com

Lakshman Thodla

Lakshman at IRFCA

Lalam Mandavkar

Lalam Mandavkar at Flickr

M. Najmul Islam

01713092036 at YouTube

M. Najmul Islam at Flickr

Malcolm Peakman

Mani Vijay, aka Vijay Balasubramanian

Vijay at IRFCA

Vijay at Vimeo - Parallel Action Album

Vijay at YouTube

Mani Vijay - Picture #4 from my 1989 IR album

The NDLS-HWH Rajdhani furiously overtakes our train (Himgiri Exp.) somewhere between Barddhaman and Kamarkundu.

A magic moment that I will cherish forever :-)

Mathur Vivek

mathurvivek at Flickr

Milind

Mitra Chowdhury

46085415@N05 at Flickr

MitraChowdhury at YouTube

Mohan Bhuyan

Mohit Kumar Tandel

tandelbaba at Flickr

tandelbaba at Youtube

Re: Parallel action video with LHB ADI Shatabdi - Oct. 16, 2009

You know that I am always complaining about how easy it is to make a five-star video in India. You just go to some convenient spot and film the first express that happens to pass nearby, and that is it. Indian trains are spectacular. They are a delight to see when stationary, they are amazing at any speed, and the fastest ones are a world-class wonder. It is definitely unfair, because we will be unable to match this abroad until Brunel's next reincarnation.

Now this one is... it is even better. Our friend Tandelbaba was travelling with his camera in a local, and he started filming an express that was supposed to be overtaking them in a parallel track. For a whole glorious minute both trains run at the same speed, then the express Pilot decides to kick it up a bit, your adrenaline was already running high and it soars... A delight to watch.

I like Indian Railways no end.

Re: video de "acción paralela" con el Shatabdi LHB para Ahmedabad - 16 de octubre 2009

Ya sabe usted que siempre me estoy quejando de lo fácil que es hacer un vídeo de cinco estrellas en la India. Usted sólo tiene que ir a cualquier lugar conveniente, filmar el primer expreso que pase por ahí, y yattá. Los trenes indios son espectaculares. Es una delicia verlos cuando están parados, son asombrosos a cualquier velocidad, y los más rápidos son una maravilla que destaca en el mundo. Decididamente, no juegan limpio, porque no podremos hacer nada parecido en el extranjero hasta la próxima reencarnación de Brunel.

Y este video es ... es mejor aún. Nuestro amigo Tandelbaba viajaba en un tren local, y comenzó a filmar un expreso que teóricamente iba a adelantarlo por una vía paralela. Durante un glorioso minuto entero, los dos trenes circulan a la misma velocidad, entonces el Piloto del expreso decide darle un poco más de marcha, nuestra adrenalina ya estaba muy alta, y vuela hasta las nubes... Una delicia de ver.

Me gustan un montón los ferrocarriles de la India.

Éste es el video:

Parallel Action

... y también hay éste, con libélulas. Sonido diesel de primera calidad

WDP-4 hauling Mumbai-Madgaon Maandvi Exp.!!!!!!!

Tandelbaba did it again - Tandelbaba lo hizo otra vez... Espatarrante

[IRFCA] PARALLEL ACTION (JU-BDTS Suryanagri Express vs EMU)

Naren Damodaran

thetrooper83 at blogspot.com

nevermoremaiden at IRFCA

thetrooper83 at Flickr

Natarajan Chandra Sekaran

natarajanakrishna at YouTube

Naveen M Reddy - 6102 Rameswaram - Chennai Egmore Boat Mail
crawls through Pamban Bridge near Rameswaram with ERS WDM-3A #18700 (Ex ED)

El correo 6102 Rameswaram - Chennai Egmore Boat Mail cruza lentamente el puente de Pamban,
cerca de Rameswaram, encabezado por la WDM-3A 18700 (Ex ED) de Eranakulam Junction.

Naveen 22359 - nuwin at Flickr

Naveen at YouTube

Nikhil Padinjaroot Karunakaran

My Home Turf

My Take on Life

Nikhil Yadav

Nikhilrailfan at Flickr

Nishant Pundir

www.nishantpundir.com

nishantpundir at Flickr

nishantpundir at YouTube

Nitin Bhardwaj

Trains at Glance at Flickr

3railfans at YouTube

Nitin Master

Onkar Thakur

onkar_wap7 at Flickr

onkar95 at YouTube

P V S Praveen Kumar

Parthajit Dasgupta / Parthowap1

http://nomadicimpulse.wordpress.com/

Parthowap1 at Flickr

parthajit72 at YouTube

Pawan Koppa

Pawan Koppa at Flickr

pawan1082 at Youtube

Pedro Sarradell Almirall

Galería en este site

Poochi Venkat

poochi at IRFCA

taurialpha at YouTube

Prakash Tendulkar

http://trainweb.org/railworld/

The Patiala State Monorail Tramway by Prakash Tendulkar at trainweb.org

Pramath Sb

pramathsb at Flickr

pramatsb at YouTube

Esto no es una "doble tracción", son cinco locomotoras WDG-4 tirando de un mercancías.
Si no le gustan los trenes, le impresionará. Y si le gustan... véalo ahora mismo.

This is not a "double traction", it is five WDG-4 locomotives hauling a goods train.
If you don't like trains, it's still quite impressive. If you do... watch it right now.

The Penta-Header WDG 4

Pranav Nath

Pranav Nath at Flickr

Prateek Kalkundrikar

prateek2701 at Flickr

Prateek2701 at Vimeo

Pratik Joshi

p9920800403j at Youtube

Pritam Koli

pritamkoli at YouTube

R. Gowrisankar

Raghu Jayaraman

mrjraghu at YouTube

Punalur to Sengottai :

PUU-SCT passenger

SCT-PUU passenger on the renowned Tenmalai viaduct

Rahul Srinivas

whizkiddreloaded at YouTube

Raj Bhavsar

Raj Bhavsar - Deccan Queen's Birthday - WCAM-3 # 21958

Raj Bhavsar - Gradient at Palasdhari

Nota: en la India, los trenes circulan, como es natural, por la izquierda.

rajbhavsar9 at YouTube

Raj Upadhyaya

MrRaj2953 at YouTube

raj1651 at Flickr

Rajeev Shrivastava

Rajendra Aklekar

Bombay Railway History Group

Rajendra Saxena

rajendrasaxena at YouTube

Rama Chandra Bangaru

bramachandra at Flickr

Ramdev Gowda A. N.

bodiramdev at Flickr

bodiramdev at YouTube

Mire usted la vía a eso de un minuto del principio :

Amaravathi Express at Dudhsagar Falls Station on the Braganza Ghat Section

Si le interesan los mercancías con doble tracción, vea esto hasta el final :

Wheel Slip or Creep Control of EMD Locomotives

De nada.

Rangachari Anand

http://www.coralfringe.com/

Ranjeet Ramaswamy Iyer

ranjeetramaswamyiyer at Flickr

hitmanranjeet at YouTube

ranjeetriyer at YouTube

Este video me gusta un montón, lo que se dice un montón...

Parallel Action with a Mail/Express (M/E) train

Ranjeeth Nagarajan

mnranjeeth at Flickr

Raunak Banerjee

rnkbnrje at Flickr

Ravi Sundararajan

Rishmeet

rishmeet1 at YouTube

Ritadhi Chakravarti

ritadhishankar at YouTube

Ritadhi Shankar

ritadhishankar at YouTube

Rohit Subramanian

WDM3D at YouTube

Roy Michael Patrick

roymichael29 at Flickr

Ruchir Sharma

ruchir1990 at Flickr

Ruchir5 at YouTube

S. Ashwin

Sachin Balwatkar

Sachin at IRFCA

Sachin Suhas Buddhisagar

sachinbuddhisagar at Flickr

Scenes from a wonderful day and night spent at Ankai Killa near Manmad

Sagar Patil

http://www.sagarweb.com/

sagarepatil at YouTube

Samar

Samar at IRFCA

Sameer Bhatnagar

Sameer7678 at YouTube

trains-unlimited at Flickr

Samit Roychoudhury - The Great Indian Railway Atlas

The Great Indian Railway Atlas at Facebook

http://www.samit.org

http://www.indianrailstuff.com

Sampath Kumar

Sandeep Bhate

Sandeep Jerath

sandeepjerath at YouTube

Sandeep Marzara

Sandeep Mohan

SandeepMohan at IRFCA

Sankaran Kumar

Santosh Jagade

santosh jagade at Flickr

Santulan Mahanta

My Experiments with Indian Railways - http://santulanmahanta.blogspot.com.es/

Santulan Mahanta at Flickr

Saqib Karori

Sarabha Saaluvesh Karthikeyan

saaluvesh at Flickr

KSaaluvesh at YouTube

Sarbamit Chowdhury - SRC based WAP-4 loco - 22895 crosses the serene landscape of Khirai
with Chennai Central bound 12841 (HWH-MAS) Coromandal Express at its tow !!

S. Chowdhury-Diesel Philic-Electric Affinity at Flickr

MrSarbamit at YouTube

Sarindam

axisarindam at YouTube

Sashwato Chatterjee

Sashwato Chatterjee at Flickr

Satish Pai

Shan H. Fernandes

shantherailfan at Flickr

Shashanka Nanda

Scenes from a wonderful day and night spent at Ankai Killa near Manmad

http://dharakhoh.blogspot.com/

Shanx at IRFCA

Shiv Shyam

Shiv Shyam at Flickr

Shreekanth Menon

sree1611 at YouTube

Siddhartha Arvind Fondekar

Siddhartha Ganesh

edwap4 at Flickr

Vemos venir el Bhopal Shatabdi, lo vemos irse, y justo entonces... este video es... demasiado

sidganesh at YouTube

His blog at Wordpress

Sparsh Saxena

thesparshsaxena at Flickr

Sridhar Joshi

Sridhar Shankar

Sridhar at IRFCA

Srinivasa Prasad Viswanadha

Sriram Sn

Sriram.SN at Flickr

sriram10 at YouTube

Sriskandh Subramanian

sriskandh at fotopic.net

Subbaraman K.

Sunandajit Ray

sunandajit at Picasa

sunandajit at Youtube

Sunil Shukla

sksrocks at Flickr

Swagoto Ray Chaudhuri

iamSRC - wreebhoo at Flickr

Swapnil David - Trains in Jabalpur, Madhya Pradesh

29 July 2012 - Rest in Peace

Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/swapnil.david

Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/swapnildavid/

India Rail Info - http://indiarailinfo.com/members/profile/192806

Panoramio - http://www.panoramio.com/user/5606095

YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/user/swapnildavid

In memory of Swapnil David - IRFCA - Safety for Railfans

Swaran Udasin

grandtrunkgt at YouTube

Bhopal Shatabdi at 150 km/h

THE GOAL OF LIFE

Every man in the world is restless and is striving for some thing, what, he does not know.
Sages declare that this is solely due to the loss of the companionship of the Soul.

swaran10 at blogspot.com

Thakur Nishant Pundir

nishantpundir at Flickr

nishantpundir at Fotopic

nishantpundir at YouTube

Trains of India

http://trainsofindia.wordpress.com/

Trayambak Ojha

funduboyz at flickr

trayambak.ojha at Flickr

Tushar Dhake

Tushar Sinha

tusharsinha94 at YouTube

Ujjawal Kashyap - WAG-7 #27410 Ajni Tigerface

Ujjawal TM at Flickr

kashyapujjawal at YouTube

Uttam Padukone

Trains and Music - u0107 at YouTube

V. M. Govind Krishnan

arvindkrishnan at YouTube

His book about the Nilgiri Mountain Railway : "NMR- From Lifeline to Oblivion"

Vighnesh Nair

http://www.vighneshnair.info/

vighneshnair28121994 at YouTube

Vikas Chander

Vikas Chander at IRFCA

Vikas Singh

Presentation on the Indian Railways through philately

Vikramjeet Maitra

viksmatt at Flickr

viksmatt13 at YouTube

Vishal Khare

lkoshatwap5 at YouTube

vishalkhare at Flickr

Vivek Manvi - Stars of CR! A WCG-2 and a WCAM-3 pose next to each other at Kalyan

http://www.irfca.org/gallery/Videos/VivekVideos

vivekman at YouTube

Vivek Mishra

vivek_wap-4 at Flickr

vivekrailfan at YouTube

Vivek Pillay - Old Man meets Old Monk

Scenes from a wonderful day and night spent at Ankai Killa near Manmad

Vivian Michael Boye

Vivian Michael Boye - 13099 Patratu (PTRU) WDG-3A starts chugging out of Barauni Jn. heading towards Samastipur Junction side.
Also notice the MLDT WDG-3A in the background waiting for its starter to head in the same direction with a BTPN load.

vivian_boye at Flickr

viviboye at YouTube

Vrijilesh Rai

Chai Biskut with Vrij

vrij at YouTube

vrijilesh at Blogspot

Yogesh Kotawadekar

yogesh143 at YouTube

Zeshan Ali Khan

zeshanalikhan at YouTube

Zubin J. Dotivala

edulji at Picasa

zubindotivala at Flickr

Abhishek Kashyap	Trainman at Blogger		electropart01 at YouTube
Adarsh Nair			ADI6782 at YouTube
Akshay Patil		akshaypatilwcam at Flickr	akshpatilgmailcom at YouTube
Ahmed Shaikh			Scrapandjunk at YouTube
Akhilesh Bhat	Wandering Around India	http://thefoolishwanderer.com/	MrPhotographist at YouTube
Amarnadh Varma		ama672 at Flickr	TheNani01 at YouTube
Amit Kumar Singh			amitmlp at YouTube
Ankit Ray Ghatak		ANKIT_16147R - ankitrg09 at Flickr	ankit717arg at YouTube
Ankur Paliwal			paliwalankur at YouTube
Anubhab Dey			arkadeybullet at YouTube
Aproop Joshi			aproopjoshi at YouTube
Aravind Girish Nair			supersaiyan3704 at YouTube
Arpan Mitra		arpanwcam2p at Flickr	arpanwcam3 at YouTube
Aswath Narayan			atherayas at YouTube
Avinash Venkitachalam			avinuvenkis at YouTube

Y esto es sólo un aperitivo...

Si le ha gustado, puede seguir por aquí

http://www.irfca.org/members/

IRFCA - Forum

IRFCA - Indian Railways Fan Club Association

y por aquí :

IRFCA group at Facebook

irfca group at Flickr

IRFCA community at Orkut

irfcadmin at YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/group/IRFCA

Buen viaje

____o o__ o o__o O O O O o o___

Railway Gauges in India - IRFCA

Los anchos de vía en la India (mi versión castellana)

La vía ancha en la India mide 1.676 mm (5' 6"), un poco más que la ibérica de 1.668 mm

Q. What is Project Unigauge?

Historically, India has had many different railway gauges in different sections, and some sections have changed gauges
(sometimes several times back and forth) depending on perceived economic and operational requirements.
However, maintaining multiple gauges leads to inefficiencies at transshipment points, etc.,
so in recent years there's been a push to convert all main routes and regional networks on IR to a single gauge, viz., broad gauge.
This has been labelled 'Project Unigauge'.

Históricamente, la India ha tenido muchos anchos de vía en diferentes secciones, y algunas han cambiado de ancho
(en ciertos casos más de una vez) dependiendo de lo que se pensaba en cada momento sobre las necesidades económicas y operativas.
Empero, mantener varios anchos implica ineficiencia en los puntos de transbordo, etc.,
de forma que en los últimos años hay un impulso para convertir todas las líneas mayores y las redes regionales de IR
a una sola medida, que ha resultado ser la vía ancha. Este trabajo es conocido como "Project Unigauge".

The Great Circular Indian Rail Challenge

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